CELTICEMPIRE
Zulu Conqueror
I think everyone here knows that I'm agnostic.
The shortest God thread opening post and poll, with the longest threadtitle on CFC-OT
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Agnostic about what? There're lots of things I don't know about. I have no idea what's under my couch right now, for goodness sake.
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Jewel Runner
I didn't. IIRC, you were pretty staunchly Christian last time I saw you talk religion.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
The Earth is under your couch.
If you haven't bolted it to your ceiling.
Now that's very unlikely but impossible to know for sure.
Damnit.
timtofly
One Day
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That is not how you voted though.
That is not logical. There is nothing wrong in questioning anything, and that is the biggest problem with christianity or so it seems. They do not question it.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I'm certainly not a Gnostic.
I'd consider myself an Agnostic Theist, but not a Fideist.
Faith and reason are not inherently hostile or even separate. Completely isolating one from the other is impossible and attempting to do so is often quite destructive. Faith should not be accepted blindly when it contradicts all reason (or when reason shows that it contradicts itself), but reason requires some faith as a starting point. Human reason is the greatest tool we have, but it is still fallible and does not allow us to know anything meaningful (trivial tautologies excluded) with absolute certainty.
I'd consider myself an Agnostic Theist, but not a Fideist.
Faith and reason are not inherently hostile or even separate. Completely isolating one from the other is impossible and attempting to do so is often quite destructive. Faith should not be accepted blindly when it contradicts all reason (or when reason shows that it contradicts itself), but reason requires some faith as a starting point. Human reason is the greatest tool we have, but it is still fallible and does not allow us to know anything meaningful (trivial tautologies excluded) with absolute certainty.
I agree, there is nothing wrong with being an agnostic.
There's withholding judgement and there's intellectual cowardice. Strictly speaking, I cannot be positive Classical Hero's idea of god is wrong, but it would be snivelling of me to say I'm agnostic about it.
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
Going off first sentence of wiki definition (and some of the discussion in other thread) I say no.
I don't have any uncertainty in my beliefs and I don't think the existence/lack of a deity is unknowable. I think its been proven false.
I don't have any uncertainty in my beliefs and I don't think the existence/lack of a deity is unknowable. I think its been proven false.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
This is an excellent thread premise.
Zack
99% hot gas
Are we talking about the hypothetical existence of some sort of supernatural force/presence/diety/mayonnaise in general, or God from the Bible? Changes my answer.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
If it helps, I think there is sufficient philosophical justification for believing that a God exists, but I think the Bible, or indeed any holy book, has zero bearing on that subject. I voted Yes.
Zack
99% hot gas
Those are basically the same as my views on the subject at hand.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
This thread is false. The poll could be so much shorter, in fact it could be 60% shorter, since he didn't have to put the answers out in full, since a simple Y or N would have been enough. I am disappointed.
warpus
In pork I trust
Me as well. Sort of.
I am just a guy who doesn't believe that God exists. This makes me an atheist.
I am also a guy who doesn't think that certain religious claims might ever be knowable, in the scientific sense. This makes me agnostic.
Well, I'm not so sure.
rugbyLEAGUEfan
Deity
Did you hear about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac? He tossed and turned all night trying to decide whether he believed in Dog.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Groan. That is so old. It is so much better when the person is also an animal activist.
rugbyLEAGUEfan
Deity
I'm gonna bet the vast majority of people here haven't heard it (in fact, I don't think I've ever heard it said back to me). What's it all mean? That we are so old.
