[ESL person whose English was maligned as eclectic] Beyond @Takhisis' point on Norman confusion: Yes, you people sure love your idioms. And proverbs. And cliches. Take the most cringe inducing dad-joke peddling morning news team in America and you can be sure that that someone on a rainy day in England centuries ago made sure that happened. Actually when i put it like that, a fair bit may be Shakespeare's fault. People being pretentious about his work and their knowledge thereof have surely contributed to turning Anglospherians into the linguistic equivalent of hoarders. And the difficulty is already apparent in examining the natives. Being a person who knows the motto of the Confederacy (not that one) as the motto of the Confederacy (not that one), never mind the original "means", i was mildly triggered when this dude here takes the new bridge (roughly 2.02). And i had to explain the deal with King John and the Wash to a Brexiteer. I'm probably in some secret point-collection program. All that is left for me to do is explain "rain check" to a dumb entitled millenial from Brighton Beach... ...and then suddenly there'll be balloons and i'll get a free washing machine. [/ESL person whose English was maligned as eclectic] Don't file me as ungrateful. English is pretty and fun. And i could use a new washing machine.