New leader elimination

[Kimiimaro]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur 6
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 11
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV 10
Boleslaw I 14-3=11 - He was a great king and he ruled over my country for some time, but... Well, I'm not that enthused in seeing two leaders for Poland, and he has more points.
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 10
Ur-Nammu 24+1=25 - The creator of the first known code of laws in history doesn't deserve to lose the lead for two whole points.

 

[Morningcalm]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur 6
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 11 - 3 = 8 (A bit dull compared to the others remaining, and Brazil is hardly a priority for a second leader as a more modern civ.)
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV 10 + 1 = 11 (A charismatic leader who could have some unique religious and military bonuses.)
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 10
Ur-Nammu 25

 

[KoubaK]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur 6
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 8
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11 ... added (France) to the name so others don't confuse him. I almost down voted him, but I like croissants LMAO
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 22 (25 - 3 ... too many Greek and Roman civs already)
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11 (10 + 1 ... I like my Spanish Crown)
Ur-Nammu 25

 

[RFormica]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur 6
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 8 - 3 = 5 Nothing personal, but I have to downvote somebody.
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 22 + 1 = 23 Why do you think?
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 25


@Kimiimaro, I have something that you will be VERY happy to hear.
I got bored waiting for this thread, so I am making a Bohemia civilization.

 

[Kimiimaro]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur 6
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 5-3=2 - Brazil already has the best leader in its history. Kubitschek wasn't a bad president, but Brazil doesn't need another leader right now.
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 23
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 25+1=26 - I just want him to have a same amount of points as Yongle.

@Kimiimaro, I have something that you will be VERY happy to hear.
I got bored waiting for this thread, so I am making a Bohemia civilization.

Wow, really? That's awesome! Can I know who is going to be the leader?

 

[Guandao]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9
Al-Mansur (6+1)=7 Offers a builder orientated gameplay to Arabia
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Juscelino Kubitschek 2-3=0 ELIMINATED! Second leader for Brazil can wait.
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 23
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 26

 

[RFormica]

Wow, really? That's awesome! Can I know who is going to be the leader?

Ottokar II

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 9 - 3 = 6 I just don't think that Arabia needs a second leader at this point
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 23 + 1 = 24 Deserves to have enough points as Ur-Nammu and Yongle
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 26

 

[Morningcalm]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 6
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 11 - 3 = 8 (Is an Australian prime minister really a priority given Australia's limited impact on world history?)
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 24
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 26 + 1 = 27 (Greater than Yongle, IMO, and was greater loved by his subjects and future dynasties as well, whereas Yongle's treasure fleet missions were discontinued in dynasties thereafter for their huge expense.)

 

[Hamilton321]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 6-3=3
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 8
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 26
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France)11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 24+1=25 Constantine is a very unique Roman leader and should be included regardless of how many Greek and Roman leaders there are.
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 27

 

[God of Kings]

James Monroe 11
Mu'awiya 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED There's better choices
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 8
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 26 + 1 = 27 There's more to Yongle than Treasure Fleets: he commissioned the largest print encyclopedia written pre-Wikipedia, as well as being so just, he refused eunuchs from the Ryukyus, since he believed that they were innocent boys who were wrongfully castrated
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France)11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 27

 

[RFormica]

James Monroe 11
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 8 - 3 = 5 Better choices; better civilization choices, too.
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 27 + 1 = 28 NAVAL CHINA and YONGLE ENCYCLOPEDIA!
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France)11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 27

 

[Kimiimaro]

James Monroe 11
Al-Mansur 7
Henry Parkes 12
Robert Menzies 5-3=2 - Sorry, but no second leader for Aussies.
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 28
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France)11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 27+1=28 - He created the first known code of laws in history.

 

[Guandao]

James Monroe 11
Al-Mansur (7+1)=8 Builder of Baghdad deserves a chance at being represented in a mod.
Henry Parkes 12-3=9 Not a priority since Tpangolin is planning on making him a mod leader, I hope
Robert Menzies 2
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 28
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France)11
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 28

 

[Morningcalm]

James Monroe 11
Al-Mansur 8
Henry Parkes 9
Robert Menzies 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED. (How he made it this far as the leader of quite possibly one of the lowest priority civilizations ever is beyond me.)
Ahuitzotl 12
Yongle 28 Unimpressed by his lies and manipulation in his rise to power. Returning castrated boys barely offsets what else he did to achieve the power in the first place. The voyages, while iconic, were a huge expense and struck from the record by later dynasties. Also, how would they be represented in the game? Naval power is underpowered in Civ VI more than in many other civs due to the disincentive to settle along the coast (lack of fresh water). Yongle's canon (encyclopedia) is also not a huge deal as it had little domestic impact and was not available for the public, whereas other writerly works like Ur-Nammu's legal code, Hammurabi's Code, or Justinian's Code actually had policy implications and are far more worthy of inclusion in the game for that reason. Far more impactful in the writerly sense was Kangxi, of whom Wikipedia says the following:

He appealed to this very sense of Confucian values, for instance, by issuing the Sacred Edict in 1670. He encouraged Confucian learning and made sure that the civil service examinations were held every three years even during times of stress. When some scholars, out of loyalty to the Ming, refused to take the exams, he hit upon the expedient of a special exam to be taken by nomination. He personally sponsored the writing of the Ming Official History, the Kangxi Dictionary, a phrase-dictionary, a vast encyclopedia and an even vaster compilation of Chinese literature. To promote his image as a "sage ruler," he appointed Manchu and Chinese tutors with whom he studied the Confucian classics and worked intensively on Chinese calligraphy.

Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 11 + 1 = 12 (Henry the Good is a worthy leader, as a religiously tolerant and successful military leader, who would make a nice contrast to the spy-centric Catherine.)
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 28

 

[RFormica]

James Monroe 11
Al-Mansur 8
Henry Parkes 9
Ahuitzotl 12 - 3 = 9 I don't think we need another Aztec at this point
Yongle 28
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 12
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 28 + 1 = 29 My bet is that he gets to 50 before this thread wraps up.

 

[Vahnstad]

James Monroe 11 - 3 = 8 Not interested in it
Al-Mansur 8
Henry Parkes 9
Ahuitzotl 9 + 1 = 10 refreshing aztec leader
Yongle 28
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 12
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 29

 

[Kimiimaro]

James Monroe 8
Al-Mansur 8
Henry Parkes 9-3=6 - I'm not interrested in a second leader for Australia.
Ahuitzotl 10
Yongle 28
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 12
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 29+1=30 - The first known of code laws in history made him the first leader in the 30 club!

 

[Guandao]

James Monroe 8
Al-Mansur (8+1)=9 Builder of Baghdad
Henry Parkes 6
Ahuitzotl 10
Yongle (28-3)=25 I agree with Morningcalm's points about him above.
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 12
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 30

 

[Morningcalm]

James Monroe 8
Al-Mansur 9
Henry Parkes 6 - 3 = 3 (Australia is NOT a priority. There are also better bearded politicians in history.)
Ahuitzotl 10
Yongle 25 This guy is too high. How on earth is he competing with Constantine and Ur-Nammu? People must REALLY like the idea of an exploring China, even if Polynesians or Portuguese would be better to fit that bill.
Ramesses II 15
Khufu 11
Cardinal Richelieu 13
Henry IV (France) 12 + 1 = 13 (Still hoping this guy can make it to top 5. He would present interesting diplomatic, religious and military bonus choices.)
Boleslaw I 11
Casimir III 12
Constantine 25
Alexander Nevsky 12
Alfonso I 11
Ur-Nammu 30

 

[RFormica]

There are also better bearded politicians in history.

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