President Trump is very overweight, but won’t stop eating burgers and drinking soda

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Also his brain
 
Obesity is the #1 risk factor for heart attacks, if I recall. Trump putting on weight is good for bitcoin.
 
Is it just me, or is Trump really quite sexy?

It IS me, isn't it?

I think I need to go for a lie-down in a dark room, for a bit. Alone.
 
Is it just me, or is Trump really quite sexy?

It IS me, isn't it?
IIRC you're old enough to remember the time when the word ‘sexy’ used to mean ‘sexually aroused’, rather than ‘attractive’.
 
I'd say it depends on the motivation. In a society where maintaining a healthy weight is a clear marker of socio-economic status, shaming people in general for being fat is an awful thing to do like any other form of poor-shaming. However pointing out that someone of means who routinely mocks others' appearances himself has a rather ugly and ridiculous appearance isn't really the same thing at all.
"If I disagree with a person then I can make fun of his appearance."
 
More like
"If someone spends a lot of time making fun of people for their appearance than their own appearance is fair game"
 
You're not convinced that poorer people have higher obesity rates even though the data clearly shows it to be true?

That isn't a valid reply to what you're quoting. You said the article demonstrated the causation, but it doesn't. It just suggests some possible and not very convincing ideas. "It's not my fault I'm fat, I can't afford 'sports clothes'". Yeah... go away. You're now claiming that me saying this is denying the correlation, even though the very text you quote is of me not denying this...

I don't disagree that there is some degree of correlation. I mean there's also a correlation between being poor and increased smoking rates. This doesn't mean that being poor causes you to smoke more, it's still a personal choice.

However, more importantly than that, and regardless of even if you can demonstrate some degree of causation, the fact remains (as Valessa pointed out) that the correlation is nowhere near strong enough to claim that fat shaming is de facto poor shaming. It just isn't. The irony of you insisting this in a thread about fat shaming a billionaire is palpable :)

I feel like you're obfuscating here just to continue denying the plain factual reality.

You're welcome to feel whatever you like. I'm not particularly interested in getting into a discussion about what you feel. Unless you feel fat I guess.
 
The evidence suggests that being poor in a wealthy country is a contributing factor to obesity. Being poor doesn't "make you fat," but it makes it significantly more difficult to maintain a healthy weight, for a variety of reasons.
You could say the same about smoking, or hard drug use. Is it not good that these things are criticised, despite the fact that this will be criticizing more poor people than rich people?

Obesity is health problem greater than or comparable to any other in western countries. We have to understand the socio-economic factors that contribute to it, but also not be afraid of talking about it as an individual and community problem whether for fear of being anti-poor or of sexism.
 
First the diet soda thing who cares? There's been no conclusive evidence released on artificial sweeteners being bad for you. It's all some loose correlations.

The caffeine content is a little high but not astronomical. People forget how strong coffee is compared to soda. Diet coke is 42 mg per 12 ounces so 12 is 504 mg. Standard cup of drip coffee is 95 mg per 8 ounces. So it's about 5.3 cups of coffee. That's a lot, and about double the average intake of someone over 65 (people over 65 consume more caffeine than any other demographic, probably cus more of them are coffee drinkers), but it doesn't seem crazy. Plus caffeine is not bad for you. A little is good for cardio vascular health, the main issues with caffeine are dependence and tolerance where you need more and more just to function, and if it interferes with your sleep. But for some people it doesn't and I don't think trump sleeps a lot anyway. I don't think presidents in general sleep very much.

As far as hamburgers, yeah not the healthiest thing, but unlikely to significantly impact him over the next 3 years, his habits over the last 70 surely have a greater impact than what happens these next 3. As someone else said I think his age is the most worrisome aspect. Maybe not for this term, but for next for sure. People were wary of electing hillary and mccain around the same ages.
 
I guess that Trump has enough willpower to stop eating in such a way that he tackles his overweight.
He does not drink or smoke, and I guess that apart from some juvenile soft drugs, he does not use drugs as well.

But I do get the impression he is a man with strong habits, and just like looking lots a television, his regular daily time structure, always trying to sleep in his own bed, etc...
he probably has since many decades the same food habits.

So why change ?
And why would it be something for the public discussion ?
There is no immorality in having overweight... or is there ?
 
First the diet soda thing who cares? There's been no conclusive evidence released on artificial sweeteners being bad for you. It's all some loose correlations.
The latest thing is that the fizziness is actually bad for you, in that it makes you more hungry. They shall probably change their minds at some point, but that is the current thinking.
 
Some people have complained that this is ‘fat shaming’. I remember that in 2016 a woman accused El Donald of having sexually harrassed her and he said ‘who'd do that?’, implying that she was ugly (and, also, that she was an ‘it’ rather than a person). So… does it apply to him as well? Especially considering how he claims all women are attracted to him (could be by the force of gravity) which justifies his grabbing their vulvæ.
 
Some people have complained that this is ‘fat shaming’. I remember that in 2016 a woman accused El Donald of having sexually harrassed her and he said ‘who'd do that?’, implying that she was ugly (and, also, that she was an ‘it’ rather than a person). So… does it apply to him as well? Especially considering how he claims all women are attracted to him (could be by the force of gravity) which justifies his grabbing their vulvæ.
Your logic is based on "There are no bad tactics, just bad targets.", my logic is based on being consistent in ones behavior.

If one says that fat shaming is not an okay thing to do to people who you don't think deserve it, then you should not engage in fat shaming at all, because what justification do you have to say that your targets "totally deserve it", but the targets other people choose don't deserve it, other than your personal opinion about the people?

Of course I think fat shaming is hilarious and fun, so shame right ahead.
 
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