FYI, you should probably stop uncritically linking The Post Millennial as a source of any truth then.
2020 US Election (Part 3)
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Actually a pro-Trump campaigner in the 2018 elections already was going on about how ‘we Jews’ this and that and saying that Jews weren't white (because a coconut-skinned WASP is white and an eggshell-white Eastasian isn't)
Is this a coded way fo saying that Texas (Houston) is the next big objective to flip?Ajidica said:
‘stole the election illegally’ - so the president of the US is actually going on about stealing thing legally.
Ah, the good old "I'm not far-right, I'm actually a centrist" argument. Funny how that always gets accompanied by quoting exclusively far-right "sources" and blindly believing any far-right conspiracy you could possibly run into...
If you "left the right", then why do you keep using sources exclusively used by the far-right?
And why do you keep pointing to singular events that weren't in any way noteworthy on a national level, yet completely ignore the far more violent and extreme acts caused by the right?
Right now there is one side that is trying to destroy the core pillars of the Republic, and that's the GOP and its far-right allies. There is also only one side that is actively trying to move the country back into the dark ages and subjugate people they don't like, and again, it's the GOP and its far-right allies. Antifa isn't any issue in the USA at all. It's al build up by propaganda trying to present GOP-supporters with an enemy to rally against. The oldest trick in the book:if you don't have anything to show for, just create a destraction by propping up an imaginary internal or external enemy. They might as well target the Byzantine Empire, that would be as logically sound as targeting Antifa. Parts of the lose group that is antifa have proven to be not much different than the people they try to fight, but that's in Europe, antifa isn't in any way relevant in the US.
There are some nutjobs on the far-left, and they are indeed somewhat similar to the far-right in that they will happily try to silence everyone who doesn't agree with their views. But unlike the far-right, they have very little impact on the lives of the average american, nor are any of them involved in politics in any noteworthy capacity. Funnily enough, the furthest to the left you can really find on the political spectrum in the US is the center-left. Which you claim is your position. Even the democrats most demonized by the right would be little more than generic social democrats in Europe, which in this day and age is not that far away from the center.
Anyone who looks at broad-sweeping attempts to undermine democracy and the Republic itself, as well as the rights of its people, on one side, and occasional cases of looting from random people after racially-charged murders or supposedly "woke" positions, on the other, and somehow ends up thinking that these two are equal, or that the latter is the bigger threat, are in no way, shape or form centrists. They are either utterly clueless and gullible, or they happily support the destruction of the Republic by the far-right, because they want the far-right to rule.
You left the right to become center-left?
Then maybe act like it, because so far you don't. And that is coming from a someone who is more a conservative. Meaning: in the proper sense, not the freak show that are the US-conservatives.
All this about Rudy Guiliani with dark sweat… barring its being the Black Oil aliens from The X-Files, I suppose it's simply that he uses some spray-on hair dye like his master and it was applied shortly before his public appearance and thus it didn't get time to stick or something.
mitsho
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Because it's decent and humane and empathetic and morally good? We are all humans after all and equal in that regard, we should treat each other with respect. Mind you, that doesn't mean equal, as there are rich and poor, intelligent and stupid ones and so on. That opens up a whole other discussion though.
But probably more important to you, it doesn't cost you anything to care about these issues. Can you name me one thing that you would have to give up for them? One thing you personally lose?
If you want me to go on, I can also talk about Rawls' veil of ignorance or how there's a good chance, you have already or will have someone in your family affected by these issues. Or that can be you, when you suddenly become handicapped after a car accident. Again, the question is not why, but why should you not?
"Social justice" issues are human issues. Might I remind you of the famous poem, First They Came...?
Also, moral argument aside, the majority of good SJW policies actually help protect you via some type of trickle-down effect. Sure, the more you're succeeding in today's society, the slower (or less obviously) those benefits accrue, but they do.
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Out of curiosity, what do you consider to be a "social justice issue"?
Angst
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"Social justice" is about minorities having basic rights. If you (general) care about rights, you might want to support it. Even if facets of it applied may annoy you.
Cloud_Strife
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why should i care whether non-white, non-cis, non straight, non-christian, non-male people suffer from preventable damage done by conservatism?
White, cis, straight, christian males demonstrably suffer the damage done by conservatism, too. It was so during the ‘reconstruction’ after the US civil war, when it was simply decided to wage war on the poor, because all the blacks were (meant to) be poor, and it still is now, a sesquicentury later.
Edit: the difference lies, perhaps, in the Stockholm Syndrome, caused by the aspirational nature of the 'Murican dream.
Edit: the difference lies, perhaps, in the Stockholm Syndrome, caused by the aspirational nature of the 'Murican dream.
GenMarshall
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If you're just going to give me only one choice and no other options. The right wing is the worse.
Well you learn something new every dayI am just comparing with Euro antifa, which in some countries has caused actual deaths
.If I may ask, what is wrong with The Post Millennial? Since the article cropped up in my Google search results, so I'm unaware of the filtration process on sourcing my materials. For future reference of course.
I'd see it, looking at it now, as giving up time, if it were in the form of activism. Though I honestly can't think of anything that I'd personally lose.
That is, something that has not crossed my mind. Because it does not occur to me that, If I was still in that toxic community, and I end up getting paralyzed from the waist down from a car accident or decided one day that people with French or Polish ancestry are no longer white. I'd be thrown out like a sack of potatoes.
Cloud_Strife
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And do you think the worst excesses of the left in America are truly comparable or equally equivalent to the worst excesses of the right wing?
FriendlyFire
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Gulliani also blew hes nose and then used the same side to wipe hes face.
Beyond that there is hes unhinged legal arguments and clown show court performances.
Berzerker
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he was sweating, hot hot hot
are Obama, Joe and Hillary left or right wing?
It's sometime in in 2019 or 2018 only that I reposted a story here from the NYT about how southern Italians were declared honorary n-words and lynched alongside the actual African n-words.
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This White House eviction drama would be funny to watch were it not for the damn pandemic going on and requiring attention... 
people should know when they've lost.
I do wonder if this will still move through a time of parallel administrations? Fancy replacing that white house with some updated building?
people should know when they've lost. I do wonder if this will still move through a time of parallel administrations? Fancy replacing that white house with some updated building?
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You're quite the Neo-Manichaean, at heart, aren't you. However, the problem is, BOTH the Democratic Party of the United States AND the Republican Party of the United States are failed, corrupt, criminal, lying, and treasonous political parties who are enemies of the Republic and Democracy, and run a Mafia-style Duopoly of institutional suppression of Third Party and Independent candidates and all ideologies NOT supported by either of their narrowing ideological bailiwicks, and they've collectively rigged the electoral system in the U.S. so no non-Duopoly can win anymore than a few token offices at more or less insignificant levels of "political challenge and threat." And, while, yes, there are sharp differences between the two parties, there are also a LOT of "bipartisan-supported agendas," that are NEVER election issues, except by fringe Primary candidates like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, etc. - who never are allowed to receive a Presidential nomination - and these "bipartisan-supported agendas," include among the worst crimes, atrocities, and injustices committed regularly by the U.S. Government, and the regime of seditious secrecy held by said Government from their people, and putting all elected and major appointed officials in Federal Government office, as well as every single vile, horrid, soulless criminal (including terrorists, assassins, and secret police agents) working for the unaccountable - and illegal and Unconstitutional - "alphabet soup," agencies, above any real sort of criminal or civil justice or consequences, in utter violation of the principles of the Republic, with in line with the immunities enjoyed by Monarchs, Theocrats, and absolute Dictators and Despots - including Fascists. And then there's the power of the Plutocratic Oligarchy - the corporate donors and the moneyed special interest and lobby groups - to outright bribe Government officials or candidates for office - of BOTH Duopoly Parties - to serve their interests over by said officials or candidates over their own constituents.
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